THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER: Order, order.
*HON. ENG. MUDZURI: My supplementary question is that whilst you want to come up with these new measures, the courts have come up with judgements that if a person has no spot fine, he should be given a Form 265 and they proceed. At ten road blocks you are stopped for indicators and asked to pay a fine of US$10 when there is no Form 265. After you have gone past, you are being asked to pay monies that are not being receipted. We are saying, put that form into use so that if I do not have the money, I could even go to court. Once you have put these measures that you are talking about, then you can bring in your gadgets that can then test these issues.
HON. MGUNI: Hon. Speaker Sir, when I ended my answer I said if something has been ruled in court and we see that it is compromising our security systems, we have the right to oppose. However, let me explain this, I stood up to explain to the Hon. Member – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections.]-
THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER: Now, let him explain Hon. Members. You raised a question and you are now talking.
HON. MGUNI: Let me articulate correctly to him. Number one, remember I mentioned here that the registration of our vehicles in Zimbabwe needs to be integrated and computerised. Most of the people that are stopped at road blocks for fines – you will find that the driver does not have a licence; the car he is driving is not his and the owner is not known. If you let that person to go and pay at a police station, how will he pay? He is not known. The address and vehicle do not correspond. You cannot be always doing what he wants. We need to enforce the law and see that the person pays – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections.] –